Hello
Information on the Vampires and Venoms sought

Were they ever used in wartime and were they successful in their rolls.

What aircraft if any did they fly against

Pictures of any actions would be appreciated

Not on this subject but still aircraft related did the British give to the
Russians Rolls Royce engines and technology that could have been used
against Americans in Korea


T.I.A. .......................Leslie



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Therefore wrote:
> Hello
> Information on the Vampires and Venoms sought
>
> Were they ever used in wartime and were they successful in their rolls.
>
> What aircraft if any did they fly against
>
> Pictures of any actions would be appreciated
>
> Not on this subject but still aircraft related did the British give to the
> Russians Rolls Royce engines and technology that could have been used
> against Americans in Korea
>
Yes, the British provided the Rolls Royce Nene to Russia.

What's this about "used against America"? Whatever the History Channel
may tell you, the Korean conflict was a United nations operation and
many other nations were involved.

Doesn't the involvement of the Republic of Korea, Australia, Belgium,
Canada, Colombia, Ethiopia, France, Greece, Luxembourg, Netherlands, New
Zealand, Philippines, South Africa, Thailand, Turkey and the United
Kingdom count?

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On Sat, 31 May 2008 18:45:30 +0100, DAN wrote
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>> Were they ever used in wartime and were they successful in their rolls.
>
> The French Aeronavale used their Venoms (licence-built as SNCASE SE-202
> Aquilon)
> in Algeria in ground support role.

France also used the Mistral (Vampire) in air-ground operations in
Algeria and in Suez in 1956.

The UK used Vampires and/or Venoms in campaigns in Suez, Aden,
Malaya and Kenya and doubtless one or two other places as it tried
to hold on to its empire in the 50s. I think New Zealand used
Vampires in Malaya as well (or were these Venoms?).

Egypt had Vampires which I believe put in an appearance in the 1956
fighting, Rhodesia used them in the 60s and 70s in operations
against the guerrillas of ZANU and ZAPU and there are one or two
other operators/locations I'm not sure about without checking
(India in 1965?).

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"®i©ardo" > wrote in message
...
> Therefore wrote:
>> Hello
>> Information on the Vampires and Venoms sought
>>
>> Were they ever used in wartime and were they successful in their rolls.
>>
>> What aircraft if any did they fly against
>>
>> Pictures of any actions would be appreciated
>>
>> Not on this subject but still aircraft related did the British give to
>> the Russians Rolls Royce engines and technology that could have been used
>> against Americans in Korea
>>
> Yes, the British provided the Rolls Royce Nene to Russia.
>
> What's this about "used against America"?

Air brush at work again!



Whatever the History Channel
> may tell you, the Korean conflict was a United nations operation and many
> other nations were involved.
>
> Doesn't the involvement of the Republic of Korea, Australia, Belgium,
> Canada, Colombia, Ethiopia, France, Greece, Luxembourg, Netherlands, New
> Zealand, Philippines, South Africa, Thailand, Turkey and the United
> Kingdom count?
>
>>
>> T.I.A. .......................Leslie --
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Mike Henley wrote:
> "®i©ardo" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Therefore wrote:
>>> Hello
>>> Information on the Vampires and Venoms sought
>>>
>>> Were they ever used in wartime and were they successful in their rolls.
>>>
>>> What aircraft if any did they fly against
>>>
>>> Pictures of any actions would be appreciated
>>>
>>> Not on this subject but still aircraft related did the British give to
>>> the Russians Rolls Royce engines and technology that could have been used
>>> against Americans in Korea
>>>
>> Yes, the British provided the Rolls Royce Nene to Russia.
>>
>> What's this about "used against America"? Whatever the History Channel
>> may tell you, the Korean conflict was a United nations operation and many
>> other nations were involved.
>>
>> Doesn't the involvement of the Republic of Korea, Australia, Belgium,
>> Canada, Colombia, Ethiopia, France, Greece, Luxembourg, Netherlands, New
>> Zealand, Philippines, South Africa, Thailand, Turkey and the United
>> Kingdom count?
>>
> "used against America" was most likely just a general statement due to the
> fact the USAF had an average of 9 fighter wings and 3 bomber wings deployed
> during the war (with some RAF pilots assigned), while the RAF had one
> Sunderland flying boat wing (2 squadrons) in Japan. The USN had 2-4 aircraft
> carriers on the line during the entire war (TF 77) that flew over 301,000
> strike flights. The Commonwealth had one carrier (TF 95) on the line flying
> over 25,000 flights. USN escort carriers in TF 95 flew another 20,000
> flights.
>
>
Indeed, but it's back to the History Channel perception that only
America was involved, as mentioned in another thread in this group.

http://www.korean-war.com/AirWar/GreatBritain.html

A better picture is given here of Britain and the Commonwealth's
contribution - and wasn't that the war where a British piston engined
aircraft shot down a MiG-15?

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®i©ardo > wrote in
:

> Mike Henley wrote:
>> "®i©ardo" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Therefore wrote:
>>>> Hello
>>>> Information on the Vampires and Venoms sought
>>>>
>>>> Were they ever used in wartime and were they successful in their
>>>> rolls.
>>>>
>>>> What aircraft if any did they fly against
>>>>
>>>> Pictures of any actions would be appreciated
>>>>
>>>> Not on this subject but still aircraft related did the British give
>>>> to the Russians Rolls Royce engines and technology that could have
>>>> been used against Americans in Korea
>>>>
>>> Yes, the British provided the Rolls Royce Nene to Russia.
>>>
>>> What's this about "used against America"? Whatever the History
>>> Channel may tell you, the Korean conflict was a United nations
>>> operation and many other nations were involved.
>>>
>>> Doesn't the involvement of the Republic of Korea, Australia,
>>> Belgium, Canada, Colombia, Ethiopia, France, Greece, Luxembourg,
>>> Netherlands, New Zealand, Philippines, South Africa, Thailand,
>>> Turkey and the United Kingdom count?
>>>
>> "used against America" was most likely just a general statement due
>> to the fact the USAF had an average of 9 fighter wings and 3 bomber
>> wings deployed during the war (with some RAF pilots assigned), while
>> the RAF had one Sunderland flying boat wing (2 squadrons) in Japan.
>> The USN had 2-4 aircraft carriers on the line during the entire war
>> (TF 77) that flew over 301,000 strike flights. The Commonwealth had
>> one carrier (TF 95) on the line flying over 25,000 flights. USN
>> escort carriers in TF 95 flew another 20,000 flights.
>>
>>
> Indeed, but it's back to the History Channel perception that only
> America was involved, as mentioned in another thread in this group.
>
> http://www.korean-war.com/AirWar/GreatBritain.html
>
> A better picture is given here of Britain and the Commonwealth's
> contribution - and wasn't that the war where a British piston engined
> aircraft shot down a MiG-15?

yep a Hawker Sea Fury go the big radial !!
>

In message >, Therefore
> writes
>Hello
>Information on the Vampires and Venoms sought
>
>Were they ever used in wartime and were they successful in their rolls.
>

The RAF used Venoms in Operation Firedog in Malaya against the communist
forces there.

They also used Venoms extensively in the Middle East for ground attack
against dissident tribes, etc. and in the Suez business in 1956.

>What aircraft if any did they fly against
>
The Egyptian Air Force flew Vampires against Israeli Meteors and
Mystères in 1956, but lost several in air-to air combat.

>Pictures of any actions would be appreciated
>
>Not on this subject but still aircraft related did the British give to the
>Russians Rolls Royce engines and technology that could have been used
>against Americans in Korea
>
>
As ®i©ardo said, the Labour government did supply the Nene to the USSR.
Clement Atlee and his friends thought Uncle Joe was a nice chap, so
decided to help him.

What happened in Korea was that pilots from the USSR were flying the Mig
15 powered by Klimov versions of the Nene, while the USN had the F9F-2
powered by the Nene-based J42.


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Grant B wrote:
> ®i©ardo > wrote in
> :
>
>> Mike Henley wrote:
>>> "®i©ardo" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Therefore wrote:
>>>>> Hello
>>>>> Information on the Vampires and Venoms sought
>>>>>
>>>>> Were they ever used in wartime and were they successful in their
>>>>> rolls.
>>>>>
>>>>> What aircraft if any did they fly against
>>>>>
>>>>> Pictures of any actions would be appreciated
>>>>>
>>>>> Not on this subject but still aircraft related did the British give
>>>>> to the Russians Rolls Royce engines and technology that could have
>>>>> been used against Americans in Korea
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, the British provided the Rolls Royce Nene to Russia.
>>>>
>>>> What's this about "used against America"? Whatever the History
>>>> Channel may tell you, the Korean conflict was a United nations
>>>> operation and many other nations were involved.
>>>>
>>>> Doesn't the involvement of the Republic of Korea, Australia,
>>>> Belgium, Canada, Colombia, Ethiopia, France, Greece, Luxembourg,
>>>> Netherlands, New Zealand, Philippines, South Africa, Thailand,
>>>> Turkey and the United Kingdom count?
>>>>
>>> "used against America" was most likely just a general statement due
>>> to the fact the USAF had an average of 9 fighter wings and 3 bomber
>>> wings deployed during the war (with some RAF pilots assigned), while
>>> the RAF had one Sunderland flying boat wing (2 squadrons) in Japan.
>>> The USN had 2-4 aircraft carriers on the line during the entire war
>>> (TF 77) that flew over 301,000 strike flights. The Commonwealth had
>>> one carrier (TF 95) on the line flying over 25,000 flights. USN
>>> escort carriers in TF 95 flew another 20,000 flights.
>>>
>>>
>> Indeed, but it's back to the History Channel perception that only
>> America was involved, as mentioned in another thread in this group.
>>
>> http://www.korean-war.com/AirWar/GreatBritain.html
>>
>> A better picture is given here of Britain and the Commonwealth's
>> contribution - and wasn't that the war where a British piston engined
>> aircraft shot down a MiG-15?
>
> yep a Hawker Sea Fury go the big radial !!
>

Just like that!

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